Comments on: The failure of open science http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/ A survival guide for the 21st century researcher Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:14:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Hunter http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/comment-page-1/#comment-43545 John Hunter Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:51:38 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/#comment-43545 Thanks, interesting post. This is an important topic. It is never easy to change how things are done. You have the majority that is just used to how things work and satisfied. And you have some that feel entitled to their current position (the Journal now - where they get to claim copyright of work produced using large amounts of public funding). It will change, so long as people continue to fight those that attempt to retain their advantages at the expense of society. Thanks, interesting post. This is an important topic. It is never easy to change how things are done. You have the majority that is just used to how things work and satisfied. And you have some that feel entitled to their current position (the Journal now – where they get to claim copyright of work produced using large amounts of public funding). It will change, so long as people continue to fight those that attempt to retain their advantages at the expense of society.

]]> By: jose http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/comment-page-1/#comment-35366 jose Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:42:46 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/#comment-35366 Hi Dan, I think newcomers have to do what you are doing (i.e., express their disgust with the existing system) but it'd take a few big shots in a discipline to actually implement change. That, I don't think we are going to see. Can we (authors) team up in what could be considered an union? Could this union influence publishers? If so, are we certain that other authors-to-be would not take advantage of the union push -i.e., stop sending papers to journals who will refuse to do 'open science'- to benefit themselves from the lowered competition? Interesting thoughts. Hi Dan,

I think newcomers have to do what you are doing (i.e., express their disgust with the existing system) but it’d take a few big shots in a discipline to actually implement change. That, I don’t think we are going to see.

Can we (authors) team up in what could be considered an union? Could this union influence publishers? If so, are we certain that other authors-to-be would not take advantage of the union push -i.e., stop sending papers to journals who will refuse to do ‘open science’- to benefit themselves from the lowered competition?

Interesting thoughts.

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]]> By: Dan http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/comment-page-1/#comment-34568 Dan Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:55:05 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/2008/the-failure-of-open-science/#comment-34568 Just wanted to comment on this - I have actually (just this week!) started poking into why Academia operates on a largely closed basis as well, so this provided a timely read for me. As a graduate student looking to publish what will hopefully be my first few papers, I have exclusively been selecting journals that have open conditions - that is, they provide my work for free to any who are interested and I am free to do what I will (short of re-publishing with another journal) with my work after I have submitted it. This leaves me with a bit of a conundrum - on one hand, I want a large readership base, but on the other hand I really have disdain for the way the system is currently setup. Why should I create content for another company to sell, essentially for free? At the end of the day, this seems like a fairly depressing dilemma to me - new grads are brought into the fold using existing journals, derive works from that, and propagate the system (sometimes, probably, unknowingly). Just wanted to comment on this – I have actually (just this week!) started poking into why Academia operates on a largely closed basis as well, so this provided a timely read for me. As a graduate student looking to publish what will hopefully be my first few papers, I have exclusively been selecting journals that have open conditions – that is, they provide my work for free to any who are interested and I am free to do what I will (short of re-publishing with another journal) with my work after I have submitted it. This leaves me with a bit of a conundrum – on one hand, I want a large readership base, but on the other hand I really have disdain for the way the system is currently setup. Why should I create content for another company to sell, essentially for free?

At the end of the day, this seems like a fairly depressing dilemma to me – new grads are brought into the fold using existing journals, derive works from that, and propagate the system (sometimes, probably, unknowingly).

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