Comments on: New version of Zotero out. Good for PDF storage as well as references. http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/ A survival guide for the 21st century researcher Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:14:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Microbegirl http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-63084 Microbegirl Fri, 08 May 2009 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-63084 Sweeeet! So how would you say this compares with Citeulike? I had been using citeulike for its pdf managing ability, but you have to download them to your PC and then upload again onto citeulike. Zotero's new interface sounds much more seemless! Hooray! Sweeeet! So how would you say this compares with Citeulike? I had been using citeulike for its pdf managing ability, but you have to download them to your PC and then upload again onto citeulike. Zotero’s new interface sounds much more seemless!

Hooray!

]]> By: Gaming Reviews http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-59764 Gaming Reviews Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:45:44 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-59764 Nice stuff..Kudos to you for putting this out. Nice stuff..Kudos to you for putting this out.

]]> By: San Francisco Copyright Lawyer http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-50892 San Francisco Copyright Lawyer Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:38 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-50892 this is great news. I'm always looking for new tools to help with PDF files. this is great news. I’m always looking for new tools to help with PDF files.

]]> By: Shannon Brown http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-45580 Shannon Brown Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:59:07 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-45580 I am back in college and many of the papers I deal with on the web are in PDF form. Zotero makes a great tool for me to store and refer back to the docs I need. I am back in college and many of the papers I deal with on the web are in PDF form. Zotero makes a great tool for me to store and refer back to the docs I need.

]]> By: Emma http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-720 Emma Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:52:22 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-720 I got very keen on Zotero at one point, but I've had a few problems. While I agree that it's way better than EndNote when it comes to grabbing stuff off the web & I like *in theory* the ability to annotate .pdfs, (in practice, I still prefer the printed version & my pen), I have found that it starts to slow down quite significantly the more that I have in it. I've therefore started to use it to gather web refs & then transfer them to EndNote & delete them from Zotero. I also have had a look at CiteULike - which scores over Zotero for its social aspects, but looses, as I find that the page I'm viewing vanishes & I get the CiteULike page instead - so I can't copy & paste the information that should be picked up. That could be my Firefox settings, but most other similar things (e.g. iKeepbookmarks, subwithBloglines etc) create a new tab, so I am inclined to blame CiteULike! It also stores them online, which is handy as I use several computers round the place (I can hook into my University Storage to get to my EndNote files), whereas I end up with several Zotero files - one on each PC. If, however, Zotero is going to have a social feature, I guess that will involve some kind of online storage, so I can see me getting keener on it in the future (especially when Flock is based on Firefox 2 - as Flock is my preferred browser :)) I got very keen on Zotero at one point, but I’ve had a few problems. While I agree that it’s way better than EndNote when it comes to grabbing stuff off the web & I like *in theory* the ability to annotate .pdfs, (in practice, I still prefer the printed version & my pen), I have found that it starts to slow down quite significantly the more that I have in it. I’ve therefore started to use it to gather web refs & then transfer them to EndNote & delete them from Zotero.
I also have had a look at CiteULike – which scores over Zotero for its social aspects, but looses, as I find that the page I’m viewing vanishes & I get the CiteULike page instead – so I can’t copy & paste the information that should be picked up. That could be my Firefox settings, but most other similar things (e.g. iKeepbookmarks, subwithBloglines etc) create a new tab, so I am inclined to blame CiteULike! It also stores them online, which is handy as I use several computers round the place (I can hook into my University Storage to get to my EndNote files), whereas I end up with several Zotero files – one on each PC.

If, however, Zotero is going to have a social feature, I guess that will involve some kind of online storage, so I can see me getting keener on it in the future (especially when Flock is based on Firefox 2 – as Flock is my preferred browser :) )

]]> By: Nieuwe versie van Zotero uit « Dee’tjes http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-660 Nieuwe versie van Zotero uit « Dee’tjes Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:57:27 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-660 [...] Academic productivity  [...] [...] Academic productivity  [...]

]]> By: H. Stephen McMinn http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-609 H. Stephen McMinn Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:38:25 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-609 I really don't see the problem that users are having with EndNote. Version X supports both linking to OpenUrlk resolvers, so if you don't have the full text you can dump the citation information into your local tool and see if you have access to the full text. You do have to configure this for your local resolver and you have to link from the full record display in EndNote rather than the list. You can also drag and drop the pdf into the citation. Again you have to save the pdf to the desktop and then drag it into the record and then delete it from the desktop but it does allow you to use Endnote to function as your personal digial depository for PDF's. It still doesn't handle capturing web pages and/or managing bookmarks very well (Endnote web and Endnote X have a capture tool which doesn't work very well). I use Furl.net for this and will try the new version of Zotero to see how it all goes together. I really don’t see the problem that users are having with EndNote. Version X supports both linking to OpenUrlk resolvers, so if you don’t have the full text you can dump the citation information into your local tool and see if you have access to the full text. You do have to configure this for your local resolver and you have to link from the full record display in EndNote rather than the list. You can also drag and drop the pdf into the citation. Again you have to save the pdf to the desktop and then drag it into the record and then delete it from the desktop but it does allow you to use Endnote to function as your personal digial depository for PDF’s. It still doesn’t handle capturing web pages and/or managing bookmarks very well (Endnote web and Endnote X have a capture tool which doesn’t work very well). I use Furl.net for this and will try the new version of Zotero to see how it all goes together.

]]> By: H. Stephen McMinn http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-608 H. Stephen McMinn Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:51:27 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-608 I would disagree with you if it weren't for Microsoft. The first and best tool that I have found for this integration was OnFolio which worked with EndNote for the citation aspects, but it has all but disappeared since being purchased by Microsoft. I am somewhat curious about a new product -- Quosa, but it seems cost prohibitive for all but STM folks. I would disagree with you if it weren’t for Microsoft. The first and best tool that I have found for this integration was OnFolio which worked with EndNote for the citation aspects, but it has all but disappeared since being purchased by Microsoft. I am somewhat curious about a new product — Quosa, but it seems cost prohibitive for all but STM folks.

]]> By: academhack » Blog Archive » Again with the Useful Stuff . . . http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-591 academhack » Blog Archive » Again with the Useful Stuff . . . Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:44:54 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-591 [...] new version of Zotero is available, and as Academic Productivity points out, this version adds the ability to store .pdfs. (More on handling .pdfs [...] [...] new version of Zotero is available, and as Academic Productivity points out, this version adds the ability to store .pdfs. (More on handling .pdfs [...]

]]> By: shane http://www.academicproductivity.com/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/comment-page-1/#comment-588 shane Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:27:50 +0000 http://www.academicproductivity.com/blog/2007/new-version-of-zotero-out-good-for-pdf-storage-as-well-as-references/#comment-588 Yep. Zotero is free, and in the features that I think matter most - everyday ease of use and organisation of references, I think Zotero is much better than paid alternatives like endnote. Jose, the word plugin I mentioned is for inserting references and generating bibliography, with a pop up search tool, like in endnote. Works in 2007/2003 on PC, also for word on Mac. OpenOffice support is planned. Lacks some of the endnote features, but its pretty effective. The new version also has a very nice feature that if you select a bunch of references in Zotero, press ctrl alt c, it will copy the references to the clipboard (e.g. in APA format). Jim, no dice. Cb2bib-like features would be nice for Zotero, but I don't imagine we would be seeing them anytime soon. I have a large PDF library but because I don't have it well organised I find its often just as quick (or quicker) to find the pdf from the web, using google scholar and an openURL resolver, rather than try to find it from my library (when there is fair chance I won't have the article anyway). Yep. Zotero is free, and in the features that I think matter most – everyday ease of use and organisation of references, I think Zotero is much better than paid alternatives like endnote.

Jose, the word plugin I mentioned is for inserting references and generating bibliography, with a pop up search tool, like in endnote. Works in 2007/2003 on PC, also for word on Mac. OpenOffice support is planned. Lacks some of the endnote features, but its pretty effective.
The new version also has a very nice feature that if you select a bunch of references in Zotero, press ctrl alt c, it will copy the references to the clipboard (e.g. in APA format).

Jim, no dice. Cb2bib-like features would be nice for Zotero, but I don’t imagine we would be seeing them anytime soon. I have a large PDF library but because I don’t have it well organised I find its often just as quick (or quicker) to find the pdf from the web, using google scholar and an openURL resolver, rather than try to find it from my library (when there is fair chance I won’t have the article anyway).

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